{"id":361,"date":"2021-05-07T18:56:00","date_gmt":"2021-05-07T16:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/?p=361"},"modified":"2023-09-24T19:03:25","modified_gmt":"2023-09-24T17:03:25","slug":"me-debunking-astrology-generalizations-and-misconceptions-or-smth-idk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/en\/me-debunking-astrology-generalizations-and-misconceptions-or-smth-idk\/","title":{"rendered":"ME DEBUNKING ASTROLOGY GENERALIZATIONS AND MISCONCEPTIONS OR SMTH IDK\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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Squares and oppositions aren\u2019t pure evil. <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

I can\u2019t believe I have to say this because I thought ya\u2019ll have learnt the characteristics of every aspect but here we are. Nothing in astrology is black and white. And I saw some ridiculous statements (not necessary here on tumblr) that said things like \u201cif your Venus squares someone\u2019s ascendant then you don\u2019t find that person attractive AT ALL\u201d. Or \u201cMars square Mercury people can\u2019t speak politely and have an annoying voice\u201d. Like????? First of all, that\u2019s ridiculous. Second of all, square in not \u201ceverything bad\u201d just like trine is not \u201ceverything amazing\u201d. Squares bring tension, which leads to motivation, they\u2019re stimulating; sometimes excitement or charisma; sometimes they can make you overdo things. I\u2019m not saying they\u2019re oh-so-marvelous because the challenges are still there, but they\u2019re not as bad as people paint them to be. Squares happen between two signs that are in the same modality so they have a bunch of things in common. Besides, some of them (Sagi-Pisces and Gemini-Virgo) are ruled by the same planet so there\u2019s a special type of chemistry between those (especially when applied to synastry). Oppositions work in two ways, planets either meet in the middle – opposite signs usually complete each other and fuel each other up. And worse case scenario? Natally this means being pulled in two different directions; synastry-wise, you can completely miss each other like two passing cars – so there may be some misunderstandings but I don\u2019t think that\u2019s the end of the world\u2026 And, as per usual, may be mitigated by other positive aspects.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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This is me debunking other people\u2019s attempts at debunking Sun sign compatibility. <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Sun IS very important but when people ask about compatibility and go with Suns\u2026 and then someone tries to be a smartass and debunk the \u201ccompatible-incompatible\u201d and does the same thing without even realizing it. Like, \u201coh I actually see a lot of Aries and Pisces having amazing relationships because *insert someting that is a total stretch and refers to their Sun sign traits*<\/em>\u201d\u2026 But you seem to forget that they\u2019re neighbouring signs\u2026 which means they probably have personal planets in those neighbouring signs\u2026 which means they\u2019re compatible not because of some made-up stuff that you\u2019re trying to come up with but because their other planets are compatible with each other. But you\u2019re still feeding into the Sun sign compatibility talk. (So like, what I\u2019m trying to also say, yes, the entire synastry chart comes into play; Also, side note, everyone can get along on some level if they\u2019re mature <\/em>enough).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Planet in a sign is NOT the same as planet in the house. <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

There may be some overlaps in some of the sign-houses associations (like in the overall energy; like for example, it sort of makes sense that 3rd, 7th and 11th are referred to as \u201cair houses\u201d because they\u2019re the most social) but in NO WAY there are similarities between planet house position and the \u201cruling\u201d sign. That association started a few decades ago and some would say that NOT linking houses with signs is a purely traditional approach. But there\u2019s plenty of professional modern astrologers with 20\/30\/40-year experience who still differentiate between sign\/house position\u2026 because they know (and have learnt along the way) that there\u2019s a huge difference.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019ll give you 3 quick examples: Gemini planets and 3rd house planets both may put emphasis on communication, mental stimulation and gathering data. But Geminis are often scattered in their approach, they may be easily distracted, may be indecisive, may be jack of all trades and talkative jokesters. They actually hate routines and dullness. \u201cSpice it up\u201d is probably a Gemini\u2019s philosophy. Now 3rd house planets may indicate you actually LIKE doing things on the regular – like running errands every other day in the mornings or going to that one specific coffee shop to pick up a snack. You may actually work in logistics or as a postman (especially if your chart ruler or MC ruler is in the 3rd). Planets in the 3rd talk about your siblings, neighbours or school experiences – like having Venus in the 3rd may point to positive experiences within those areas – something Gemini Venus has nothing in common.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Venus in the 9th can study at an art\/beauty or fashion school (or even teach there if the MC is involved); can be very attached to spiritual and religious matters; can also find love in a foreign land. But imagine it being in Taurus – rather shy, needing those stable values to feel secure, being an exceptionally great student at that art school thanks to its domicile. Venus in Sagittarius on the other hand, likes adventure, things being shaken up from time to time, lightheartedness and exploration. But what if we flip the scenario and that Sag Venus is in the 2nd house. This can denote earing money through travelling and looking for ways to expand but in a financial matters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Continuing with the Venus examples, having Venus in Aries is completely different than Venus in the 1st. What do people usually say about Venus in the 1st? That it makes the native charming, lovely, well-put together, with great manners, maybe beautiful, graceful, maybe a bit shallow. When in Aries? None of these characteristics fit, on top of that, it\u2019s in its detriment. Our poor gal Venus is uncomfortable and confused in Aries. She\u2019s like, \u201cconquer? Swords? Selfishness? Obnoxiousness? Sparring? You\u2019re telling me to fight people? What am I doing here???” <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I\u2019ll leave you here with that cause those examples weren\u2019t that quick lol and in fact, I could give you a 100 of those. Besides, this actually inspired a 3-page rant that I\u2019ve already posted not so long ago that you can read\u00a0HERE<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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There\u2019s no such thing as “more accurate\u201d astrology. <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Both western and vedic are valid. Both can show you the same things. JUST KEEP THEM SEPARATE AND DON\u2019T MIX THEM WITH EACH OTHER. And don\u2019t say things like \u201csidereal shows your soul\u201d – omg I saw this statement soooo many times, who the hell even came up with this?! Actually, if anything, it\u2019s the modern western approach that \u201cpsychologized\u201d (yea I just made up a word, you mad?) astrology while Jyotish still sticks to the very real \u201chere and now\u201d, sometimes fatalistic predictions of how exactly your life is going to roll out\u2026 But hey, reach for hellenistic methods and they can tell you the same things, just with different tools. So no, they do not show different things, it\u2019s just their language is different.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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If you say you don\u2019t identify with your chart then you\u2019re just reading it wrong.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

This partially connects to the last one in some ways\u2026 Switching to a different astrology or different charts is not a solution. Learn how to read your natal. If you say it doesn\u2019t describe you, I can guarantee you that you haven\u2019t studied it properly. (Now this hasn\u2019t turned into a rant yet but I may actually do a whole-ass post on this because if I start elaborating on it now I\u2019ll end up with another 3-page essay).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Learn how and when to generalize. Also learn how to take generalizations. <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

I understand that you have to pick up on every single thing separately in order to put everything together. It\u2019s like learning a new language: first you need to learn individual words and then you need to know the proper grammar to create a full sentence. This is 100% understandable and necessary, but it\u2019s important to take the entire thing into consideration. And this goes for all branches of astrology, but I guess it\u2019s especially annoying with synastry. This, again, comes down to the very black and white approach. You know, like when you see those long paragraphs where people elaborate on all the intricacies of Venus-Pluto aspects or whatever as if that one thing was determining the entire relationship between two people. (Side note, no shade but some of ya\u2019ll should start writing fiction or poetry cause the amount of fluffy speech and waffle that I see floating around here on tumblr is insane sometimes). Why are you wording everything as a make it or break it type of situation? And on the receiving end – learn how to take *properly phrased* <\/em>generalizations constructively. Example: it IS a rule that Aries is a competitive one, maybe you\u2019re not one of them (for many reasons) but don\u2019t make a fuss about someone saying this. It IS a basic rule that energies of the same sign in two people are going to get along (well that depends on the planets involved but I digress), if that, for some other reasons, doesn\u2019t apply to you, don\u2019t go yelling that it\u2019s bullcrap because you hate people of the same sign. You know? Like, learn the difference.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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DON\u2019T SCARE PEOPLE WITH ASTROLOGY.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

I had a mini-rant on this one a while ago, but I think this deserves a constant reminder (and refers to the last point), I don\u2019t want to see any more posts that would say things like \u201cxxx house placements will bring you suffering\u201d or \u201cstay away from people with planets in your xxx house\u201d or, even worse, making a (completely untrue btw) prediction based on one single thing like \u201csomeone with so-and-so aspect is going to harm you\u201d. And you\u2019re so casual about it??? You know there are sensitive people in the world. Learn some ethics. Learn some counseling skills. Don\u2019t be ignorant. Don\u2019t throw these random stuff at people just like that. And learn some actual astrology cause most of these aren\u2019t even closely describing that particual aspect. LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ok now I\u2019m pissed again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Studying astrology and believing in free will doesn\u2019t go well together.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s not just psychological and spiritual. It\u2019s useful to know that western astrology made it like that because there were still people threatening astrologers for using it as a divination tool. So they moved away from the predictive\/deterministic aspect of it. Now, I\u2019m not here to change anyone\u2019s beliefs cause that\u2019s a very personal thing that everyone should develop on their own. But once you start diving deeper into astrology you\u2019d notice that there\u2019s a heavy emphasis on fatedness and things being predetermined. That includes both the good and the bad stuff and you should learn to accept that. And with the bad things specifically, let\u2019s not excuse it with some \u201coh that was an opportunity for growth\u201d. Like yea, maybe, occasionally??? But just acknowledge that sometimes things happen not because there was a deeper meaning in them\u2026 but because you have a Pluto-Mars conjunction in the 6th that makes an applying square to your chart ruler and you were going through a profection year where Mars was your time lord and it transited that chart ruler while making a conjunction with Neptune so you were attacked by a baby crocodile while swimming and it bit off your toe and you got a nasty infection and that\u2019s it (I just made that up btw, I don\u2019t actually know anyone who was attacted by a crocodile). So like, sometimes shit just happens and there\u2019s nothing psychological about it. Also, I bet your free will didn\u2019t want to be attacked by that croc.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Squares and oppositions aren\u2019t pure evil.  I can\u2019t believe I have to say this because I thought ya\u2019ll have learnt the characteristics of every aspect but here we are. Nothing in astrology is black and white. And I saw some ridiculous statements (not necessary here on tumblr) that said things like \u201cif your Venus squares…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"iawp_total_views":1},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"acf":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/361"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=361"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/361\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":367,"href":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/361\/revisions\/367"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=361"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=361"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mercurytrinemoonastro.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=361"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}