I, once again, have rolled my eyes at an astro tiktok video. It was a few days ago so my level of annoyance has already (mostly) dropped and I’m now realizing that at least I have something to talk about.
How many times have you seen an article that said “aspects that indicate fame/talent/wealth or whatever”? I bet many, I’ve seen them too. But the problem is, astrology is a complex thing and there’s no “one size fits all” solution. Fame in the birth chart? Have you looked at charts of more than 20 celebrities? All of their charts are different and will have barely anything in common. Singing talent in the birth chart? Yea singers have diverse charts as well. And so on…
Of course, sometimes there are some patterns and they work on some percentage of people, for example, Sun-Jupiter people are extremely lucky. But also notice that it is a generalization and in reality, some are lucky only in one sphere of their life, some are lucky alllll the way, for some that luck shows in travelling the world, for others they have high position at work. Or they survive a plane crash and that is their “lucky” moment (true story btw).
I like to say that the easiest delineations are often the most accurate. Let’s say someone has Mars in the 6th house. Mars is sharp objects, 6th house is accidents – and that shows as an injury with a knife or whatever. Or let’s say Venus in the 9th house. Venus is art, 9th house is higher education – the person studies art history at uni.
But these are the most basic keywords for these things. And sometimes they work on that basic level and sometimes they’re more subtle or complex.
Now let’s go back to the tiktok video I’ve mentioned. The person was talking about “aspects that indicate that you’re neurodivergent”. The first thing they said was Saturn in Aquarius in the 4th house or Aquarius placements in general. I frowned. First of all, you’re telling me that every Scorpio rising with Saturn in the 4th is neurodivergent? Second of all, so only those born every 30 years are neurodivergent? And third of all, the 4th house??? This is a mess.
But let’s start from the top.
There is no keyword in astrology for neurodivergence and its specific types. So the closest we can get to it are hints of different ways of thinking, troubles with communication, unique ways of assesing things and maybe some mental dysfunctions. So what we can look for, just from the top of my head, is: afflicted 3rd house (learning) or its ruler, afflicted Mercury (communication/learning/thinking), afflicted Gemini or Virgo placements (both mercurial signs), afflictions of the 1st house (the self) or its ruler, 12th house placements (subconscious, mental issues), maybe even 6th house placements (illness) and generally really any harsh aspects or even overloaded/prominent Mercury. Keeping that in mind, this is still a very generalized list and it probably won’t apply to everyone who falls on the spectrum.
After this quick thought and listing these aspects in my head, I googled celebrities who are neurodivergent: some of them have Asperger’s, some Tourette’s or OCD. Let’s have a look:
Anthony Hopkins has retrograde Mercury in the 1st house as well as both Mars and Saturn in the 3rd house. Elon Musk has stationing Mercury on the ascendant which is squared by Chiron, Saturn in Gemini as well as 3rd house Virgo Moon in squares. Billie Eilish has 3rd house retrograde Saturn in Gemini, Mercury conjunct Chiron and ascendant ruler in the 12th.
Greta Thunberg (untimed chart) has Mercury in retrograde and Saturn retrograde in Gemini. David Beckham has Mercury on the ascendant, 3rd house Saturn in detriment. His Moon is also on the apex of a Neptune-Chiron t-square. Deryl Hannah has Mars in fall in the 3rd house and the 3rd house ruler in Gemini.
I’d say there’s a theme going on here, as I expected. Although, to be fair, in a few examples that I checked, I didn’t see any afflictions in the chart (granted, some of them were untimed).
But here’s the problem
The person in said tiktok video said that they were first diagnosed with autism by an astrologer before they had an official diagnosis. And now this is where I see the biggest issue. As I’ve mentioned, you can make generalized assumptions but to pin point a specific thing? I’d say either you have to have an amazing intuition or just make a lucky guess. Because the spectrum is big, the person could as well have ADHD or dyslexia so why autism exactly?
Just to compare, it’s the same with other things. Years ago I made Halsey’s chart analysis and I said it’s very clear that she has mental health issues (physical as well), especially ones that are of the nature of identity crisis. But in no way I could guess that it’s specifically bipolar disorder.
Just to give a different example from my own chart. Someone would look at it and mayyybeee say I have some sort of thinking/communication/motor skill issues: 3rd house Moon afflicted by Saturn and Chiron, Mercury in detriment and, most importantly 3rd house ruler Mars in retrograde in Gemini. But who would guess that I have cross eye dominance and used to have a heavy lisp as a kid? Probably no one. (some say I still talk funny lol).
So, if you have any of the aspects that I’ve listed in the beginning, you may be somewhere on the spectrum… or not. You can also stutter or have a lisp or never learn to drive. Or be held back at school… not because you have dyslexia, dyscalculia or ADHD or whatever, but because you’re just a lazy ass. Or… it can manifest in a completely different way that won’t be your standard cookbook definition.